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This page is dedicated to everyone who is willing to learn about the real cold facts of the art world of Experts. Please enjoy the information you will find on this page written by members of the eBayfakes.com Team. At the bottom of this page we will show some of the emails we have received in thanks for helping people from around the world avoid buying fake art. Thank you all for your support.

                                        The
Team members at eBayfakes.com 

So you want to buy a Master Work of Art on eBay ?

You see works of art which interest you on ebay which if
authentic- seem to good to be true, so you ask your self.
If this is a real Chagall, Picasso, or Miro (etc...) ? Can it
be real ?
Can I be one of the (1 out of 10,000) people that finds a
treasure ? IF ITS REAL, WHY WOULD ANY ONE SELL IT
FOR .1 TO 1 % OF ITS REAL VALUE.

Then why would anyone sell real art on eBay
for a fraction of the value ?

This has been the disconserting often asked question among
 many serious buyers. There are quite a number of other
web sites which this question is equally as valid.
The following information is complex and true. Please
take your time in reading this page .

Art authentication. An invaluble subject.

In recent times we have seen the fall and demise of
what the world has titled," World Experts".

These have been the trusted indiviuals who have been
placed in a positions of athority whose nod of a head can
make or break a multi million dollar master work of art.

Recently (2006-7) The arrest of Maya Picasso
(Maria de la Concepcion Ruiz Walter) and other accomplices*
 has been requested at the 4th Central Trial Court of Madrid (Spain) .
 Prior Proceedings have been reopened and extended
for alleged continuing crimes of fraud (deliberately attributing
 false worthless works to Picasso).

Maya Picasso has also lost two law suits because she
had BURNED (In fire/oven) two Picassos which were later deemed
authentic by the French Court . She had to pay out full market Value
 in damages
. The two Picassos were in books that were published in
the 1950s-1960s

The question is, how many REAl Picasso's has Maya Picasso stated
that she would be unable to confirm authenticity for ? What was the
motive in not authenticating what she very well might have know
was created from the
hand of her father ? We might never know the answer.

#1. Maya Picasso is in fact a true expert. Her crimes of fraud
were her decision to abuse her abilities and ruin her good standing
in the auction world. No one should ever trust Maya Picasso again. She should be banned from injecting any advise concerning her father's work.
She has proven either - she is abusing her power, or she really does not
know the difference between her fathers work & a master forgery with out provenance that she could reference. This is like the man who went
to Maya Picasso some years back. This man had received a work
 of art directly from Picasso himself in the 1950s, and Maya could
not, or would not authenticate it. She did not call it fake. She just
simply stated she was at that time unable
 to confirm authenticity. That is just plain WRONG & UNFAIR.

Claude Picasso who undoubtabley knows less then Maya
Picasso is now authenticating his fathers work.
 Its a big money game. Thats what it is, aside from obvious fakes,
 the Picasso family will not touch or even look at 99%
of all art submitted to them with out direct provenance linking
the art to Pablo Picasso regardless of what galleries it
had been shown in..

I believe the Picasso family has displayed their inbread god syndrome/complex mixed with GREED.

 

(Thought: There are many forger's who will use this very
agument to sell fakes with COA's which mean nothing
 claiming the Picasso family is impossible to deal with ?)

How is one to know the difference between REAL & FAKE when
 the story is so very good, and the art might look real to the buyer ?
 READ ON .........................................................

 

Example: Allan Stone, World Expert for WILLEM DE KOONING. Allan stone died on Dec 18, 2006.
Before he died he had authenticated a
de kooning drawing (Titled: Elaine de Kooning)
 for a member of his own family who
owned a gallery. (Sydney Janis Gallery, New York).
 After the dekooning drawing which world
expert Alan Stone deemed authentic & by
the hand of Willem de Kooning, Mr. Stone
was told to retract his opinion from the
de kooning drawing because it slightly
resembeled another de kooning motif / drawing
which had been on exibition at the
Mitchell-Inness & Nash Gallery, NY the
previous year. We here at eBayfakes.com
have seen images of both drawings. It was
a corrupt power move by the
Mitchell-Inness & Nash Gallery. Alan Stone
 was nothing more then a political puppet.
His expertice and experienced eye told
him the drawing was drawn / executed by
the hand of Willem de Kooning. A gallery
who is very influencatal in the art world turns
around and tells him to change his mind.
This if after Mr. Stone had the drawing and
knew it was correct. The drawing was from a
 private East Hampton collection of which
there were other works of art by de Kooning
and Pollock. If these works of art were all deemed authentic by the art world, then it would take the spot light right off of the pieces which were aviable for sale through
Mitchell-Inness & Nash Gallery. They would not allow this to happen. They would lose millions. They put great prussure on Alan Stone. A short time
later Alan Stone dies.

Link> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/arts/18stone.html

...............................................................................................

I had the honer of having Alex Rosenberg
(Rosenberg Fine Arts,NY) drive out to my
 house in the Hamptons for a viewing of sevral
pieces of art by de Kooning, Pollock, and Picasso.
He was accompinied by a Mary Ann Banks.

It was a very good day for all of us.
There were 5 of us present for this meeting.
One of the gentelman who were present
 at the time was Taylor Robison of Ohio ,
 animation art expert, and young self made
million air who 1 year later died all to young.

Also present was Mr. Vincent Croglio,
Hudson School, & Grupe Expert.This meeting
 was an incredible experience for us all.
Alex Rosenberg was very impressed with a
Pollock & a Picasso which hung in the small
studio where we spent most of the day.
At one point after staring at the large drip
Pollock for what seemed like an hour,
I ask what he thought. Mr Rosenberg said
and I quote," It would take 15 years of study
to even get close the way this pollock looks
 & feels, and you would need a seperate
 signtaure expert to sign it."

At that time those were words of gold
coming from a man who is a living legend
in the art world.

Some years later. Dr. Paul Biro found 3
fingerprints on the same Pollock 
 Mr. Rosenberg liked. One of the prints
was a direct match to Pollock's prints with
 a high number of Biofurcation point matches.
The prints found on the Pollock were
compared to the prints of Jackson Pollock
 taken from the Pollock House in East hampton, NY
 and the Tate Gallery. London. They all matched.


The following letter is from one of our supporters.


First Name: Allan
Last Name: Hansford
E-mail Address: hansford_allan@yahoo.com
Comments:
     John,

My intuition came from the casino business. I worked in casinos for
25 years and spent 8 hours every day 5 or 6 days per week looking for
things that are"… shall we say"… out of place.  A chip not exactly on
the split line, a man or woman acting differently, whether it was a
member of staff or a customer"… I had to learn to trust or not trust
somebodyÂ’s word in a heartbeat. Pay the man, or don’t pay the man.
Give the man $5,000 credit; don’t give the man $5,000 credit. I
learned to trust my gut, even over and above a surveillance camera,
because in the casino business there is no substitute for a good pair
of eyes and great intuition. I could write a book on how many times
surveillance officers got it wrong, even after replaying the tape
several times "…

When I got to looking at (the other site) my suspicions were aroused.
It looked more like a vendetta than a serious web site "… with some
quite slanderous comments. So I started asking some questions "… When
I saw some of the venomous replies I became convinced that the site
is being run for a different purpose than helping people, and they
are just posturing. What their purpose is I do not know yet... but it
not for a good purpose. I must have been getting somewhere close to
the truth when thy blocked my IP. Enough said on that subject.

Psychology is a fascinating subject, and it is intriguing to consider
why people might KNOWINGLY buy fake art on Ebay.
A short list might look like this:

Just because they like the look of the piece, and the money is no object.
To hang in their offices to impress business clients.
As a present to impress a business client.
As a present to somebody in the hope of sexual favours.
As a surprise present for somebody who loves the artist.
Because they are greedy and imagine a quick profit.
Because they think they are smarter than the “stupid” seller.
Because they love the artist and could never afford the real thing.
Because they think an actual work is better than a print that everybody knows.
For fake prestige.
To make friends envious.
To buy and resell in a gallery for large profits.

We can no doubt add to this short list of 12 for a very long timeÂ…
There are probably as many reasons for knowingly buying fake art as
there are people "… and I would think that the percentage of people
who are actually fooled are in the great minority.





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From: "Jason Karrels" <thejayinator@gmail.com>

To: efakes@usa.com
Subject: Fake Picasso Painting
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:03:27 -0800

Hello, I am the seller of the fake picasso painting you have on your site. I bought it a week ago hoping to get a good deal and turn around and sell it for a little profit. I got it and posted it on ebay and started getting emails to check ebayfakes... I just thought they were spam so I kept the auction going (duh). Finally, after about 10 emails I checked the address and found you guys. I see that you have a very firm feeling that this is a fake... After contacting the seller and asking for a refund he states that he will offer a $3500 refund due to fees and shipping chargers. I told him to screw off, I wanted a full refund. do you know anything I can do to scare him into giving me a full refund? Like going to the FBI or something like that? I know NOTHING about art and figured this was real because so many people were bidding on it. Please help me figure this out, thanks for your time and I appreciate you guys doing this!



eBayfake.com - RESPONCE,
Hello Jason,
    Our gut instinct was that you are a good seller who just ended up with a fake. Thank you for your communication with us regarding the Picasso you had up for sale. . Depending on how the seller you purchased it from described it, and/or represented it - will determine what recourse you have. No seller can claim in court they didn't know if the auction description included a COA or any document stating authenticity. Even if the document is a total fake, it still misleads the buyer. It would be more difficult to pursue recourse if it was sold as attributed. It would have to be in most cases UNSIGNED to be attributed.
   Lets not forget that demanding a refund from a seller which is in another country could get very costly. 
Jason, the hard fact of the matter is two part>
#1. It is obvious you do not know nearly enough about Picasso and what goes on within ebay to make what you believe are investments with out expert advise of some kind.  You will have to ask a lawyer what are ALL if any re courses you have. Good luck in getting your refund. I hope your next experience with art is a better one. Thanks again Jason. 
NOTE TO READERS: We removed the Picasso fake we had listed from this web site when Jason ended the auction. This is what happens to good people who do not seek advise.  We helped Jason as much as we were able.


First Name: Allan
Last Name: Hansford
E-mail Address:
hansford_allan@yahoo.com
Comments: Hi Jason,

What on earth were you thinking of buying artwork for thousands of
dollars without knowing anything about ART? This should be a lesson
to everybody! And John is right you are going to have one hell of a
time trying to get your full refund. I cannot see the picture now as
it has been removed from this site. But who said it was a fake? My
point is this; you may have to prove it is a fake? If so, who is
going to prove it for you? You may find that proving it is a fake
will be as expensive, if not more so, than your losses. I believe
that Maya Picasso is the only person who can authenticate a Picasso;
does it not then stand to reason that she is the only person who can
prove it is not by Picasso? Opinion is one thing, proof is quite
something different.

I do not like to say this Jason, but what you did was totally
irresponsible. You may just as well have taken your money to the race
track or casino and picked out a number, knowing nothing about race
horses or roulette.

The art market can be a very confusing place with all its different
terms... There are for instance terms such as, in the manner of (in
the style of) or after (usually referred to a copy or rendition of.)
There is School of and Studio of (of a particular artistÂ’s school or
studio) also terms such as French School, German School etc. There is
follower of, when one artist follows the style of another. For
example, if you look at BraqueÂ’s and PicassoÂ’s early works, it is
sometimes very difficult to tell the difference between the two. The
same is true of Klimt and Schiele in some of their erotic works. 
Klimt was very much influenced by Schiele. And in these cases it is
difficult to know who was following who...

When considering buying art one must also take the following into
consideration: Almost every artist copied other artists, even the
Great Masters copied. Poussin copied Titian, Manet copied Mantegna.
Michelangelo copied Giotto. Matisse copied many works in the Louvre
and then sold the copies. Rubens copied from literally dozens of
other artists. They all copied. Even the great genius Picasso copied
other artists, such as Rembrandt, Velasquez etc... Picasso even
signed student works if he thought them worthy of his signature.
Picasso and Dali also signed thousands of blank sheets of paper to
printers etc. for cash. Michelangelo was also a restorer and he would
take works for restoration, copy them and give the client back the
copy, keeping the original for his own collection. So there will be
works attributed to Giotto and others that were actually painted by
Michelangelo. It is easy to see why authenticity is not only a
nightmare at times; it is all too often just a matter o!
  f an opinion of one or two people.

This is not to mention the multitude of amateur artists who also
copied, and still copy the Masters; and follow their styles; it is a
natural part of the artistÂ’s learning process. Therefore, it is
obvious that there are many more copies, and in the style of, or
manner of the great artists than genuine items on the market.

Any piece of art that is sold as original by any given artist should
be sold with a genuine Certificate of Authenticity, and/or genuine
Provenance tracking the work back to the artistÂ’s studio. Otherwise
it should be sold as in the manner of, after the said artist or
attributed to the said artist. Though I do not know who authenticates
the COAs provenances or attributions. That is a whole different ball
game.



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